Re: Moon Landings Faked?
You can't "believe" it because it has happened. There are mountains of evidence. What more do you need? What other questions do you have that haven't been answered? After a while it becomes more ridiculous to believe it didn't happen than it did happen.
Kerberos":hkuu9d9t said:
You can't "believe" it because it has happened. There are mountains of evidence. What more do you need? What other questions do you have that haven't been answered? After a while it becomes more ridiculous to believe it didn't happen than it did happen.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
I'm not saying either way, Yuri. I just want to see some good answers to the questions raised in this thread. Look back through it and you'll see what I mean.
I'm not saying either way, Yuri. I just want to see some good answers to the questions raised in this thread. Look back through it and you'll see what I mean.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
All questions have been answered "good".
Repeatedly.
Now how about providing some evidence showing that posters are being paid by NASA or the government? As you have repeatedly said.
All questions have been answered "good".
Repeatedly.
Now how about providing some evidence showing that posters are being paid by NASA or the government? As you have repeatedly said.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Settle down, Wayne. Your continuing efforts to deflect attention from the subject by resorting to threats of banishment are exactly what I've been talking about. You need to step back and take a deep breath, and think about what you're doing.
Settle down, Wayne. Your continuing efforts to deflect attention from the subject by resorting to threats of banishment are exactly what I've been talking about. You need to step back and take a deep breath, and think about what you're doing.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
You have been given a chance to support your accusations. You have refused to do so. End of story.
This is my last comment in the forum.
You have been given a chance to support your accusations. You have refused to do so. End of story.
This is my last comment in the forum.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Whatever, Wayne. I've complied with every "demand" you've made in this thread.
Whatever, Wayne. I've complied with every "demand" you've made in this thread.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Also, were not getting paid by NASA or the government. We're just people with a little common sense and access to google
All questions have been answered. Every, single, absolute one. If you have any more questions, I'd be happy to answer them, as this is mankind's greatest accomplishment and everyone should be well informed of it. To believe that it was a hoax is not only an insult to the astronauts and engineers who worked so hard on this, it's an insult to America and what we as humans can achieve.Kerberos":3btqhjru said:
Also, were not getting paid by NASA or the government. We're just people with a little common sense and access to google
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
It's never insulting to seek the truth, Yuri.
Now, I'm not taking sides here, but I've been following this thread and the Moon-landing doubters have made a lot of good points and have acted very reasonably, while the Moon-landing believers have resorted to ridicule and jokes. It's as if they have something to hide.
It's never insulting to seek the truth, Yuri.
Now, I'm not taking sides here, but I've been following this thread and the Moon-landing doubters have made a lot of good points and have acted very reasonably, while the Moon-landing believers have resorted to ridicule and jokes. It's as if they have something to hide.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Specifically what questions are those that haven't been answered? Don't try to use emotional appeal to make it seem like those of us who "believe" the moon landings were real are somehow in the wrong.
If somebody claimed the Earth is flat, or the holocaust did not happen, then yes, they will be subject to ridicule due to the overwhelming evidence available. This is because they are ignorant and choosing to be irrational by claiming these things are false. If I said the sun was square then people would be laughing, what do you expect?
There are two sides here, one that recognizes and approves of the overwhelming data and logic, and another which chooses to ignore that and decides to be irrational.
Kerberos":3s2tqgu9 said:
Specifically what questions are those that haven't been answered? Don't try to use emotional appeal to make it seem like those of us who "believe" the moon landings were real are somehow in the wrong.
If somebody claimed the Earth is flat, or the holocaust did not happen, then yes, they will be subject to ridicule due to the overwhelming evidence available. This is because they are ignorant and choosing to be irrational by claiming these things are false. If I said the sun was square then people would be laughing, what do you expect?
There are two sides here, one that recognizes and approves of the overwhelming data and logic, and another which chooses to ignore that and decides to be irrational.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
You keep making libellous accusations that certain people are being paid to promote pro-moon landing propaganda. It has been demanded that you retract your accusations and as of yet you have not.
Comprende?
It looks like you are very close to being banned, Kerberos, so I would suggest you actually comply with the demands made upon you, rather than just claim you have complied.
Kerberos":2in34jw2 said:
You keep making libellous accusations that certain people are being paid to promote pro-moon landing propaganda. It has been demanded that you retract your accusations and as of yet you have not.
Comprende?
It looks like you are very close to being banned, Kerberos, so I would suggest you actually comply with the demands made upon you, rather than just claim you have complied.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Hi guys. I was just in the NASA Enforcement Division breakroom with some co-workers and they told me they had signed up for the new direct deposit plan. So, I went over to BUPERS and... oh....
<looks around>
Oops, wrong thread.
By the way, the idea that NASA or any secret agency has the money to hire personnel to do nothing but dump disinformation on website forums is simply ridiculous. SDC is a tiny community. There's no way anyone would dedicate personnel to sitting here, watching threads and waiting to pounce on them with a Disinfo Button. It's... just.. a really, unsmart notion that some government agency would dedicate that kind of manpower to "teh intrawebz." But, you can't tell the conspiracy crowd that; Oh no! There are boogey men lurking around every corner in their world. After all, if one of their hair-brained ideas is just too stupid for the internet, it must be some gubbermint agent's fault what did it... not their own inadequacies and lack of understanding.
Hi guys. I was just in the NASA Enforcement Division breakroom with some co-workers and they told me they had signed up for the new direct deposit plan. So, I went over to BUPERS and... oh....
<looks around>
Oops, wrong thread.
By the way, the idea that NASA or any secret agency has the money to hire personnel to do nothing but dump disinformation on website forums is simply ridiculous. SDC is a tiny community. There's no way anyone would dedicate personnel to sitting here, watching threads and waiting to pounce on them with a Disinfo Button. It's... just.. a really, unsmart notion that some government agency would dedicate that kind of manpower to "teh intrawebz." But, you can't tell the conspiracy crowd that; Oh no! There are boogey men lurking around every corner in their world. After all, if one of their hair-brained ideas is just too stupid for the internet, it must be some gubbermint agent's fault what did it... not their own inadequacies and lack of understanding.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Well, now, let's consider, Speedy. Throughout this entire thread, the pro-landing crowd has been taking shots at the doubters and calling them stupid, but let one person on the other side give a little back and suddenly you're offended. Yeah, I'm going to have to say that's a little hypocritical.SpeedFreek":zyycu9o9 said:
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
There is a big difference between a saying a person is misguided and saying someone is corrupt.Kerberos":hilcuj82 said:Well, now, let's consider, Speedy. Throughout this entire thread, the pro-landing crowd has been taking shots at the doubters and calling them stupid, but let one person on the other side give a little back and suddenly you're offended. Yeah, I'm going to have to say that's a little hypocritical.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Do you NOT understand how the real world works? When you say something as ridiculous as we didn't land on the moon, people aren't going to take you very seriously.
Now I'm trying to be nice here, are there any questions that you have that have not been answered yet? You keep saying the moon hoaxers have made good points that have yet to be answered, specifically what points are you referring to? We don't want to discourage you from learning but please remember that science isn't a democracy where "both sides" deserve the same "fairness". One side is supported by the evidence, the other is not.
Do you NOT understand how the real world works? When you say something as ridiculous as we didn't land on the moon, people aren't going to take you very seriously.
Now I'm trying to be nice here, are there any questions that you have that have not been answered yet? You keep saying the moon hoaxers have made good points that have yet to be answered, specifically what points are you referring to? We don't want to discourage you from learning but please remember that science isn't a democracy where "both sides" deserve the same "fairness". One side is supported by the evidence, the other is not.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
One other factor that can lead to an allergic reaction - If you state that a question has not been
answered, and a simple web search (or even a search within thead in which it is posted) shows
that it has. The reason that this leads to an allergic reaction is that it suggests that the person
doing the posting is not really interested in having the "unanswered" questions answered, but rather
wants to have a post that indicates that there are "unanswered" questions out there, and that
therefore fill-in-the-blank conspiracy must be true.
It also might suggest someone who wants to push a certain agenda but (a) Doesn't want to take
the time to actually research it and (b) Wants plausible deniability if/when it gets shot down.
Realize that many of the "unanswered" questions have been answered many times, on the web,
and in the pages of this forum. Imagine that you have answered a given question a dozen or
two times, and someone pops in asking it for the n + 1 time, and imagine further that they ask
as a "No one has addressed this question that I have seen", or worse yet "The community continues
to ignore this but" prefaced question. To expect that someone has an obligation to be gentle in
pointing out that their assumption is a tad off is a bit much. Yes, it would be nice if everyone
were as saintly as Calli is, but that is a little much to expect of normal lortals.
One other factor that can lead to an allergic reaction - If you state that a question has not been
answered, and a simple web search (or even a search within thead in which it is posted) shows
that it has. The reason that this leads to an allergic reaction is that it suggests that the person
doing the posting is not really interested in having the "unanswered" questions answered, but rather
wants to have a post that indicates that there are "unanswered" questions out there, and that
therefore fill-in-the-blank conspiracy must be true.
It also might suggest someone who wants to push a certain agenda but (a) Doesn't want to take
the time to actually research it and (b) Wants plausible deniability if/when it gets shot down.
Realize that many of the "unanswered" questions have been answered many times, on the web,
and in the pages of this forum. Imagine that you have answered a given question a dozen or
two times, and someone pops in asking it for the n + 1 time, and imagine further that they ask
as a "No one has addressed this question that I have seen", or worse yet "The community continues
to ignore this but" prefaced question. To expect that someone has an obligation to be gentle in
pointing out that their assumption is a tad off is a bit much. Yes, it would be nice if everyone
were as saintly as Calli is, but that is a little much to expect of normal lortals.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
You assume that just because someone posts a response, that the question has been "answered" and no further discussion can be tolerated.
You assume that just because someone posts a response, that the question has been "answered" and no further discussion can be tolerated.
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
So go ahead - discuss some of the answers then! Show us where we are going wrong...
Kerberos":7cgmtw0t said:
So go ahead - discuss some of the answers then! Show us where we are going wrong...
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Discussion is plenty tolerated. Which responses do you think weren't adequate enough to adress the questions? I'd be happy to give you more information on the moon landings.Kerberos":1yj4h51w said:
Re: Moon Landings Faked?
Not at all. I assume little because of the consequences thereof.
Again, further discussion is abetted with some degree of specificity. If there is something that someone says
that you have a question about, judicious quoting of that specific part of the response really helps.
Specificity in disagreement helps too. Stating something like
"I don't think the lighting works that way because ..."
will always work better than:
"You are just a tool for the global conspiracy"
Kerberos":1cxjxyle said:
Not at all. I assume little because of the consequences thereof.
Again, further discussion is abetted with some degree of specificity. If there is something that someone says
that you have a question about, judicious quoting of that specific part of the response really helps.
Specificity in disagreement helps too. Stating something like
"I don't think the lighting works that way because ..."
will always work better than:
"You are just a tool for the global conspiracy"
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