The Earth's Destiny & a destiny of Eric Julien

[dmitry]

That's a dilemma... If Eric will be right (that's what I don't wanna strongly), then he will be gaining lots of popularity & respect from all over the world, but in case he's wrong after the 25th of May...Then what do you think about this situation... Do you think he'll be in a deep hole? <br />------------------<br />P.S. Mention the second article in a middle of this WEB-PAGE

 

[spacechump]

What dilemma? The guy's a nutjob. Don't worry. We'll all be around on May 26th safe and sound.

 

[harmonicaman]

An important consideration for the Doomsday Prediction cottage industry, is to <i>always create Doomsday Prediction dates that will only occur long after you have passed away</i> -- this will save you from a lot of embarrassment and derision.

 

[tom_hobbes]

Calling this guy a 'nutjob' is unjustifiable and prejudicial. Firstly I really like nuts and secondly I quite like 'jobs' too. So leave 'em out, alright? You're giving 'em both a bad name. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

I have no clue what this is, nor do I plan on wasting valuable minutes researching it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[qso1]

Dmitry:<br />he's wrong after the 25th of May...Then what do you think about this situation... Do you think he'll be in a deep hole?<br /><br />Me:<br />The last time a comet had this kind of publicity was Hale Bopp and Marshall Applewhite and his followers come to mind. Yes this guy will be wrong May 25th...not maybe wrong...will be wrong. Will he be in a deep hole? Nah, hell have followers long after he is shown to be wrong. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[qso1]

Dmitry:<br />If Eric will be right (that's what I don't wanna strongly), then he will be gaining lots of popularity & respect from all over the world...<br /><br />Me:<br />Almost forgot, if it were to be a major impact event, and it won't...he won't have the respect and popularity I imagine he hopes for because the worlds communications capability would be bombed back into the stone age. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[dmitry]

ha ha. That's true.

 

[kyle_baron]

If the comet fragments are already breaking up in space, imagine what would happen to them once they hit the atmosphere. Comets are dirty snowballs (no rock). The Tugunska comet back in the early 1900's hit Siberia and flattened 1000 square miles of forest. It was some kind of atmospheric explosion, nothing hit the ground. This would hardly qualify as a world wide destruction. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="4"><strong></strong></font></p> </div>

 

[qso1]

Kyle_baron:<br />If the comet fragments are already breaking up in space, imagine what would happen to them...<br /><br />Me:<br />True, much of the material would simply burn up, there could be Tunguska like impacts.<br /><br />The reason I mentioned that this comet would not hit the Earth is that the trajectory does not intersect the Earth or even come that close to intersecting the Earth. The comet and fragments are in an almost parallel course along side Earths orbit. The forward momentum would be too great for fragments to overcome. They would have to change direction drastically after breaking away. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[qso1]

An update on the comet:<br />http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060510_comet_spitzer.html<br /><br />This references meteor showers expected to result from this comet in the year 2022. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[edawg]

im just intreasted in the timing of the event:may 25 impact predicted:april comet found breaking up..its worth rasing an eye brow..their isnt a dammed thing we could do about it.well see what happens

 

[spiritualspaceman]

How is anyone going to judge this Man .<br />It mostly will not even happen but if any of us are mature serious mined folks interested in Space putting him down shows just how far we have not come as a Human race.<br /><br />If there is any remote chance this man is right then what?<br /><br />If he's wrong which I think he is do I laugh at him and if I do what does not say about us?<br /><br />I was looking at the Map that he has on his site as to where the affected area's would be if this happens and alot of People would be affected .<br /><br />If the Flagment he's talking about went in the direction of the Atlantic Ocean that he claims is a high probability<br /><br />it would impact the surface according to Eric Julien and cause a reaction that would activate dormant Volcanic area's beneath the Atlantic causing a 200 Meter wave .<br /><br />The Map he has on the site now gives a clearer indication of where and who would be affected.<br /><br />I will not laugh at him if he's wrong and I will not laugh at all if he's right.<br /><br />I spoke to Nasa in Washington last week to a department watching this and thay said that we will not get hit.<br /><br />Thats the offical word from Nasa .<br /><br />So time will tell if this happens or not.<br /><br />Calling people names in such a forum shows a lack of credibility for those who say they are interested in Science and Space.<br /><br />Well thats my opinion on this man and his predictions from his website and interview recently on Coast 2 Coast AM.<br /><br /> <br /><br />

 

[Philotas]

It appears that all the doomsday predictions failed.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[kyle_baron]

<i><br />I spoke to Nasa in Washington last week to a department watching this and thay said that we will not get hit. <br /><br />Thats the offical word from Nasa . </i><br /><br />Ever see the movie Armegeddon? Even though it was a movie, do you honestly think NASA would tell anyone that we WOULD GET HIT? NOT!<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="4"><strong></strong></font></p> </div>

 

[qso1]

It never fails to amaze me how one person can get people to believe a comet shown not to be on a collision course is gonna collide with us while NASA is said to be telling us it won't when they may know that it will and won't tell us. As one poster puts it, think NASA would tell us. The data comes not just from NASA but astronomers. One does not need to rely on their data alone. If one is concerned enough, they can calculate the comets trajectory. Personally, I wouldn't rule out debris re-entering Earths atmosphere decades from now but May 25th? On at least one graphic I saw, the comet is shown crossing the sky over a period of several days or weeks, I forget which. If the comet were headed for us, we would only see it brightening over the next several days/weeks. This would also apply to fragments that separated, recall that the comet is travelling at tens of thousands of miles per hour. Any fragment that separates has to overcome its own forward momentum to turn towards Earth and collide.<br /><br />We don't have long to see that May 26th will be a day like any other, barring some other disaster. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[rickstine]

It's not the comets that we know that I'm scared about,but the comets that we don't.O'course we have a higher probably of getting hit by a astroid,still this does not take away my concers.We should really put more money into sky watching,than we are now. Congress laughed at sky watching just like SETI in the early 90's it's no different from today.

 

[rickstine]

I o think that NASA might not say a single thing,NASA might just try to take on the comet by itself,so they don't cause fear and panic,then again it could be different.<br /><br />Taking on a comet,your best bet is to change it's flight path.

 

[qso1]

True enough but Eric Julien would not even be able to make a prediction if he didn't know of Comet SW. The ironic part now that you mention it, what happens if we get hit by some significant space chunk May 27th and that chunk is not part of the comet but we won't know that because will be blasted into the stone age. So does Julein become a messiah to those who believe we were hit as he predicted? We'd probably never know.<br /><br />I agree we should beef up skywatching as that should not require funding of the type associated with NASA. Small change comparatively speaking that would make the difference in humanity getting to the stars or being returned to the caves. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[qso1]

NASA has no ability to take on a Comet at this late stage in the comets passage. If they determine chunks might hit us decades from now on subsequent orbital passages, they would then develop the means to take on the comet. This would require alerting government, securing funding, and in all likelihood, public announcements eventually. They would have to announce if the comet gets within days or even weeks of impact because it would be obvious in the sky as a growing, brightning blob of light that could still have a tail but the head doesn't travel parallel to Earth. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[doubletruncation]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>I o think that NASA might not say a single thing,NASA might just try to take on the comet by itself,so they don't cause fear and panic,then again it could be different. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Except, as a number of people have mentioned, NASA isn't the only one looking at this thing. Anyone with a telescope can go out and track the positions of the fragments. NASA aren't the only people who know who to generate ephemerides for comets, and NASA aren't the only people who know how to solve Newton's equations. If one of the fragments were on track to actually hit us - you can bet that NASA wouldn't be able to keep a lid on it (even if they wanted to). A guy having a dream that a comet will hit us is no basis for thinking that it will. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[fiosfiend]

I find it rather comical that seemingly intelligent people are having a serious (and I use that term loosely) discussion about this wack-job. This guy cites bible code, crop circles, extraterrestrial telepathic messages, and Nostradamus as his sources. <br /><br />The fact is that these wacko conspiracy theorists always have some kind of out. I have no doubt that on May 26 he'll come out with something that shows that the impact date was miscalculated in some way and that it will actually be next year or 6 months from now, etc., etc.

 

[pampersangel]

Eric Julien is a nut case that seriously needs to be committed or locked up. I hope when 5/25 passes without incident he is arrested for scaring people to death. He had his own forum in which he had to lock tight because he & his "right hand man" went crazy on people who did not agree with him. On his website he asks for donations and links his paypal account.<br /><br />He had another of his people on the forum asking for donations ($1 a piece) to help with the victums come Thursday.<br /><br />He needs a padded room in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised is him and his "followers" are part of these as well. <br /><br />http://www.cometography.com/hysteria.html

 

[michaelmozina]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>An important consideration for the Doomsday Prediction cottage industry, is to always create Doomsday Prediction dates that will only occur long after you have passed away -- this will save you from a lot of embarrassment and derision.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds. - Kristian Birkeland </div>

 

[michaelmozina]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>That's a dilemma... If Eric will be right (that's what I don't wanna strongly), then he will be gaining lots of popularity & respect from all over the world, but in case he's wrong after the 25th of May...Then what do you think about this situation... Do you think he'll be in a deep hole?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Is this impact event scheduled for any particular hour today, or associated with a particular timezone, or do we have to wait till it's the 26th everywhere on earth before we start breathing a collective sigh of relief? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Here in California it is still pretty early yet, but in Tokyo and Hong Kong they've already started to tease Eric about his failed prediction. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds. - Kristian Birkeland </div>