STS-117 (13A) Mission- Part III

[bobblebob]

What time is the deorbit burn for the 1st attempt tomorrow. Both Nasa website and the Flightplan have different times

 

[bobblebob]

Cheers. Seems the website has the correct times then

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Actually it is unusal that the MS1 position is the same for ascent and entry.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Yeah, I know, that's why I was curious about it. I felt sure one of the mid-deck guys would get a ride home on the flight-deck, especially with the rookies on this mission.<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[SpaceKiwi]

Just a question about the Launch & Entry Suit for ISS crew members, specifically Suni in this case. Did her suit stay on orbit with her for this return flight, or did it come home on Discovery and get sent back up on this mission?<br /><br />Similarly, does her Soyuz suit come home with her tomorrow, or do the Russians take that home on their next change-out? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[dougbaker]

Just for fun, I did some google searching for emergency landing sites and found this list.<br />I don't know how old/accurate it is, but fun places to land.<br />http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/sts-els.htm<br />

 

[Testing]

Edwards forecast<br /><br />Friday: Sunny and hot, with a high near 103. West southwest wind between 8 and 18 mph. <br /><br />Friday Night: Clear, with a low around 63. West wind 15 to 18 mph decreasing to between 7 and 10 mph. Winds could gust as high as 24 mph.<br /><br />Saturday: Sunny and hot, with a high near 98. West wind 7 to 10 mph increasing to between 17 and 20 mph. Winds could gust as high as 25 mph.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

That's fascinating!<br /><br />Sure glad EWR or ABE aren't on there.<br />Not enough room!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[usn_skwerl]

im typing this before looking at the emergency landing list, making a couple of guesses, and then going back to look at the ELS, and comment.<br /><br />im guessing Andrews AFB(they have 2 9900 ft runways), as well as o'hare, NAS Oceana, and maybe even Tinker AFB are all on there... <br /><br />surprisingly, only Oceana? i figured if they really needed to, they COULD use KADW or KORD.<br /><br />MW, im glad they cant use EWR....could you imagine the chaos corralling and redirecting all of those commercial pigs in the area? too much risk, i'd assume, even if its not a runway length issue. <br /><br />(edit: Page last modified: 27-04-2005 22:06:53 Zulu ) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[3488]

Thats very true MeteorWayne.<br /><br />Thanks dougbaker.<br /><br />RAF Fairford has one of the longest runways in Britain. One emergency landing site I know of,<br />but not on your list is Kent Manston International Airport, near Ramsgate, Kent, UK. <br /><br />It is only 25 miles from my home town of Ashford, Kent, UK.<br /><br />It has the longest runway in Britain & is also one of the widest.<br /><br />It used to be called RAF Manston, before being turned over by the RAF for more civilian use.<br /><br />The only potential draw back is that it can often be very windy there. The land is very flat<br />& is close to the coast.<br /><br />However this part of the UK is the driest & sunniest part overall.<br /><br />The site in Gran Canaria, Canary Islands, I know very well. It is next to the<br />Aeropuerto de Gando de Gran Canaria. You can't miss it if ever you fly to Gran Canaria.<br /><br />The Spanish airforce often share civilian runways with airforce jets. <br /><br />The Aeropuerto de Gando de Gran Canaria, is no exception. NASA AFAIK, helped <br />pay for the upgrade of the airport, in return for its use in case of the emergency landing <br />of the STS.<br /><br />The locals there I know are quite proud of it.<br /><br />Andrew Brown.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[halcyondays]

<<<<br />It has the longest runway in Britain <br /> />>><br /><br />It doesn't. The longest runway in the UK is actually at Heathrow - the northerly runway (09L/27R).

 

[alokmohan]

Sunita is Indian.We dont have much stock on that point So .Sunita leads the news.

 

[scottb50]

Rah! Rah! Rah! Is there a wormhole in the house. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

Meaning what exactly? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/180586main_image_feature_852_ys_full.jpg<br /><br />What are the 2 structures tilted diagonal to the left and right of the main module?

 

[alokmohan]

Worm hole?

 

[bobblebob]

Cheers. Can see what you mean now. Just looked weird at first, but now i know what they should be i can clearly make out what they're

 

[emerrill]

Assuming they dont get into KSC today, will they for sure land at EDW today (assuming good weather), even if both sites were to look good for tomorrow (ie, would they take the extra attempt(s) at KSC, or just do EDW today if they can)? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[ckikilwai]

In this article on SDC they write:<br /><br />"Following today's engine burn, Atlantis will have five landing opportunities tomorrow. The first will be at KSC at 2:18 p.m. EDT (1818 GMT). At around 3:50 p.m. EDT (1950 GMT) tomorrow, the shuttle could try again at KSC or try to land at Edwards.<br /><br />If all these attempts fail, then the shuttle has two more chances at Edwards tomorrow: one at 5:24 p.m. (2124 GMT) and 6:59 p.m. EDT (2259 GMT)."<br /><br />So if they abort for a landing at 3:50 p.m. EDT, you have plenty of time to drive to Edwards base <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[MeteorWayne]

Lotsa blue shirts in the control room today.<br /><br />Maybe a good luck charm? <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

"Our mindset down here is we are going to land you somewhere today" <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[emerrill]

Full list of time from the flame trench:<br /><br />Here's the list of landing opportunities through the weekend. All times are EDT and subject to 1-2 minute changes.<br /><br />Today:<br />2:18 p.m. at KSC<br />3:49 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br />3:54 p.m. at KSC<br />5:24 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br />6:59 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br /><br />Saturday:<br />1:02 p.m. at KSC<br />2:33 p.m. at White Sands Space Harbor, New Mexico<br />2:37 p.m. at KSC<br />4:07 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br />4:08 p.m. at White Sands Space Harbor, New Mexico<br />5:42 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br />5:44 p.m. at White Sands Space Harbor, New Mexico<br /><br />Sunday:<br />1:22 p.m. at KSC<br />2:54 p.m. at White Sands Space Harbor, New Mexico<br />2:58 p.m. at KSC<br />4:27 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br />4:29 p.m. at White Sands Space Harbor, New Mexico<br />6:03 p.m. at Edwards AFB, California<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Just to review, there is a KSC landing oppotunity on orbit 218 <br /><br />Orbit 219 can go to either KSC (which is preferred if possible)<br />or Edwards.<br /><br />Then there are Edwards opportunities on orbits 220 and 221. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

You beat me and had better info as would be expected <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

The KSC forecast is better tomorrow, escpecially with the earlier landing time.<br />But it is a summer/Florida forecast <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Today: Isolated showers, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after 2pm. Partly cloudy, with a high near 87. West southwest wind around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.<br /><br />Saturday: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 2pm. Partly cloudy, with a high near 90. North northwest wind between 5 and 10 mph. <br /><br />Sunday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 89. Northwest wind between 5 and 10 mph. <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[superluminal]

First landing opportunity of de-orbit burn to land at KSC, is in a hour and twenty minutes weather permitting. <br />That's approx. 12:12 pm central time 1:12 pm eastern time for de-orbit burn.<br /><br /><br />God speed Atlantis and Crew. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><strong><font size="3" color="#3366ff">Columbia and Challenger </font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="3" color="#3366ff">Starships of Heroes</font></strong></p> </div>