(1E) STS 122 Post Launch Mission thread

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

Hi Larper, I just think that it will be a precautionary spacewalk, to just check. Clearly the foam loss was no where near the limit to cause damage. So yes, SKY was sensationalising. But you are correct, spacewalks are not routine @ this stage. I wonder if NASA is still a bit worried post STS 107 Columbia? Would not be surprising if so. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

bobblebob · Feb 7, 2008

Spacewalk to inspect? I doubt Nasa would have even got to that stage when they havent even analysed the data or done the OBSS inspections. This issue is a non story (at the moment anyway). Foam coming off is normal and has happened on most if not all flights BBC know more than Nasa it seems

larper · Feb 7, 2008

I meant, inspection spacewalks are not routine. They have done exactly 0 to date. They have done 3? to actually repair some damage, but never do a dedicated spacewalk to inspect. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Vote Libertarian </div>

Smersh · Feb 7, 2008

Well if its true that the foam fell off the ET (external tank?) I guess there would be nothing to inspect, would there? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea." Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."Website / forums </div>

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

Hi Smersh, Great to see you again, I expect to inspect the heat shield for potential foam impact damage. IMO they will find nothing. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

Smersh · Feb 7, 2008

Hi Andrew, great to see you too. Yes, I hadn't thought of that. The foam may have come from the ET, but there could still be impact damage. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea." Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."Website / forums </div>

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

I suspect that you are correct bobblebob. I too think that this issue is a non story. Bloody BBC on the news, kept going on & on about Britney Spears & just had a passing mention of Atlantis. <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> Having said that, BBC News 24 did show the launch live & did cover it very well generally, they cut the coverage short & went straight to Britney Spears, as that was a 'breaking story'. <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> Crap & we pay a TV licence too. <img src="/images/icons/mad.gif" /> Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

bobblebob · Feb 7, 2008

Unfortunately i think BBC and Sky only cover the launch in the unlikely event it will explode during accent and they have something to talk about <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" />

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

I am afraid bobblebob, that you are correct there. With the BBC it is just not good enough. You & I pay a yearly fee to them in the form of the TV licence & when some thing INTERESTING & IMPORTANT like this is happening, they should bloody well cover it properly & intelligently. <img src="/images/icons/mad.gif" /> Oh I forgot, only intelligent people are interested in this, so that cuts out 99.9% of potential viewers, who are more interested in chav things like East Enders & Britney Spiers. <img src="/images/icons/mad.gif" /> Atlantis has crossed the USA Canada border & is just north of Lake Superior. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

bobw · Feb 7, 2008

Hey hey! NASA TV has those 3 view animations running that show the shuttle position. My favorite tracking views, haven't seen them for a long time. This spacewalk for inspection stuff has me stumped. The post launch press conference said there were some small pieces but didn't mention a hit. The leading edge sensor data hasn't been downloaded yet and they haven't used the boom. I wonder if somebody at SKY googled foam hit and found some old news about a previous launch? Nothing about it at Space.com, Flame Trench, etc. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

earth_bound_misfit · Feb 7, 2008

Hells teeth, you guys still pay TV licenses! Do they have TV detection vans still as well. When we had the licenses I sure that we hardly ever paid them. It was only we you brought a new telly that you would have to. A lot of TV hiding went on in those days <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> Anyhow, back on topic. I missed the launch, real bummer. I wasn't expecting them to go today, after reading on here yesterday about the weather forecasts. Sounds like a great launch. Well done NASA and SG! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?Go here to see how: SDC Eye saver </div>

Smersh · Feb 7, 2008

Atlantis has crossed the USA Canada border & is just north of Lake Superior. Thanks for the update Andrew. I reckon you should claim some of that licence fee from the Beeb, for doing their job for them! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea." Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."Website / forums </div>

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

Hi bobw, This just came up on Spaceflightnow.com. Justin Ray. 2235 GMT (5:35 p.m. EST) "It was a pretty clean launch," astronaut Jim Dutton radioed from mission control. "We did see, at about MET 2:13 (two minutes 13 seconds after launch) a few piece of debris, they think at least three, that came off inboard of the LO2 (liquid oxygen) feedline just aft of the starboard bipod leg. The debris assessment team indicated they didn't identify an impact at the time and it's obviously under evaluation." "OK, thanks for that report," commander Steve Frick replied. "We really appreciate it." Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

bobblebob · Feb 7, 2008

"Hells teeth, you guys still pay TV licenses! Do they have TV detection vans still as well." Yup <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> We pay a TV licence just for the BBC, nothing else

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

You are very welcome Smersh. It makes me hopping mad. You know as I do that Britain is facing a crisis in Science & Technology education, etc. A real skills shortfall is approaching fast. The BBC could at least be responsible enough to report this launch & mission properly. This mission is both very interesting & very important, part of the long term investment of the human species. What do the BBC do? Cut coverage short as a 'breaking story' about a talentless, rich has been bimbo breaks. It makes me bloody cross. It says a lot about the BBC's priorities. There has been a marked deterioration in coverage of interesting events in recent months. In August the BBC provided excellent coverage of the Delta 2 Mars Pheonix Lander. The reporter interviewed ULA engineers & spoke to scientists involved in the Mars Phoenix Lander mission, even switching coverage to the JPL. Today, barely showed the launch of Atlantis STS 122, did not talk to anyone at The Cape & rushed over to a crappy story about Britney Spiers. It is just not good enough. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

bobblebob · Feb 7, 2008

Sky At Night on the Beeb showed Messenger pics and was talking about Mercury and the mission as a whole. Shame its on late at night tho when not many people see it

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

Yes, a good start would be to put The Sky at Night on during Prime Time. The chavs might not like it, but sod them. I am sure that the BBC does not really need to show two hours of Eastenders repeats every Sunday afternoon. The MESSENGER images & science from that fantastic Mercury encounter would help to get young people interested in science generally & Astronomy & Space Exploration in particular. Just as decent coverage of today's launch would have done. Patrick Moore does present this sort of thing very well, but as you say, they stick him on in the middle of the night. I think that I will write to the BBC with a complaint about today's poor show & with my concerns in particular. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

bobblebob · Feb 7, 2008

Let me know what email address you send the compliant off to, and i will do the same

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

I will do bobblebob, I will be forwarding the e-mail address to you. Atlantis has just passed over Tasmania, Australia & is approaching Victoria & New South Wales, Australia. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

Smersh · Feb 7, 2008

Sir Patrick has done a superb job with his Sky at Night broadcasts, which he's been doing since April, 1957. Yes it's ridiculous they are on so late. Maybe they should have put Britney onboard the shuttle, the Beeb might have given better coverage then. <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea." Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."Website / forums </div>

earth_bound_misfit · Feb 7, 2008

I wish NasaTv would hurry up and show the replays. I'm hanging. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?Go here to see how: SDC Eye saver </div>

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

Riding in the Payload Bay of course. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> Today has made me realise how bad the situation is becoming. If it was a one off, than we can accept that, but the BBC is dumbing down severely, despite its denials & that is why bobblebob & myself are going to write to them directly to complain. Hi earth-bound-misfit. Yes, we have to pay a licence to the BBC. Fair enough in that unlike ITV, the BBC does not show people bouncing around on sofas in year round 'sales' or buying car insurance every eight minutes in naff advertising. The BBC however seems to be forever advertising itself pushing future programming @ every opportunity, even between the news & the weather & treating trivial subjects as headline news. Today has really rammed that point home. It is getting very bad now. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

Just showed the Columbus Science Module in the Payload Bay from camera A at the forward porside of the Payload Bay. It is not as big (length) as I imagined. Also showed the exterior science pallets, that are to be attached to the Columbus Science Module in EVA 3. Very interesting. Also just showed the hand held movie from Atlantis of the ET falling away, over a sea of clouds, a great video indeed. The ET, whilst tumbling, venting cryonics in a bluish jet, I just hope this will be shown in full resolution. A superb peice of film. Don't suppose the BBC will show it. Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

thor06 · Feb 7, 2008

Sorry to hear BBC is letting you down. I think it's even worse here in USA. I regularly watch BBC America news, as well as Your World Today to get a taste of what's going on outside the US. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> www.watchnasatv.com ONE PERCENT FOR NASA! </div>

3488 · Feb 7, 2008

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