Discovery: ISS 1J Mission (STS-124) Post Launch Thread

[thor06]

<p>&nbsp; Good quotes from Rob Navias during ascent&nbsp; "<span>A man made rising sun on behalf of Japan"</span></p><p>and my fav:&nbsp; "Guidence now converging......The on-board computer steering the shuttle for the on-ramp to the highway for the international space station"&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> <font color="#0000ff">                           www.watchnasatv.com</font></p><p>                          ONE PERCENT FOR NASA! </p> </div>

 

[bobw]

This might not belong here, but I don't have the patience to dig up the old thread and I don't think it deserves its own <br /><br />Last time on STS-123 I remember during EVA-4&nbsp; Michael Foreman was unable to disconnect an electrical cable on the patch panel so they couldn't power up the new&nbsp; RPCM (Remote Power Controller Module.<br /><br />I have looked at the mission timeline for STS-124 and didn't see anything about trying to move the cable during a spacewalk this time.&nbsp; Has anybody seen or heard a plan about getting Gyro #2 back on its own circuit? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[nimbus]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp; Good quotes from George Diller during ascent&nbsp; "A man made rising sun on behalf of Japan"and my fav:&nbsp; "Guidence now converging......The on-board computer steering the shuttle for the on-ramp to the highway for the international space station"&nbsp; <br /> Posted by thor06</DIV><br />Opposite the discombobulated female commentary running on NASA-tv right now... Someone's got performance anxiety, or something. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Jcon]

Looked like a pretty mild impact. Just "kissed" the belly of the orbiter. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p>Scribblenotes of Mission Status, and post Mission Management team briefing news conf.</p><p>Matt Abbott, Lead shuttle flight dir.</p><p>No significant anomolies.</p><p>All know about left OMS secondary gimbal actuator control system. Since we have option of only using right OMS until deorbit, just parked it during troubleshooting. (Propellant can be shared-MW)</p><p>Leading edge inspection completed, all OK so far.</p><p>Orbiter is 600 miles behind, catching up 63 miles per orbit.</p><p>Tomorrows times. Final burn 11:15 EDT, RPM 12:53, Docking 1:54 PM (EDT)</p><p>Leroy Cain Deputy SPace Shuttle Director:</p><p>No big issues. A few Tyvek coveres didn't tear off an cleanly and as early as we would have preferred, looking at it for engineering curiousity.</p><p>RPM data in by Tuesday, will see if focused ispection is needed. If so would be flight day 7.</p><p>SRB's in tow, should have SRB camera pix Tuesday?</p><p>Ice Ramp and LOX Feedline bracket appear to have performed really well, "ET-128 performed really well"</p><p>Q: Mark, Hous Chron LEading Edge Impact sensors? A: 2 port, 1 starboard, very small. Nothing significant.</p><p>Q: Marsha Dunn: Confidence in tank since Hubble will be night launch?</p><p>A: Every tank has had less foam loss in mass, as well as less from significant locations.</p><p>Q: Clara, SDC. (All I wrote was "inspection", obviously not a question&nbsp; or answer worth recording)</p><p>Q: Marsha Dunn : 5 pieces of foam all after 135 seconds. Any new info?</p><p>A: none so far.</p><p>Q: How many may have hit "Shuttle"?</p><p>A: 1 or two might have hit "Orbiter"</p><p>(Little chuckle for you, s_g <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />, we appreciate using the correct terminology here!)</p><p>Q: Bill Harwwod, CBS: Correlation of camera images and foam location A: Too early for that.</p><p>Mark, Houston Chron: EVA suit pressure anomoly?</p><p>There was a short pressure peak, which occurred same time as O2 repress in orbiter; engineers have determined that was cause. No need for retest.</p><p>Next News&nbsp; Conference ~ 4:30 PM EDT tomorrow.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>MW</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[3488]

<p><strong><font size="2">Cheers Wayne for your Scribblenotes here asd well as on the Phoenix thread.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">All appears to be going smoothly on the whole.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Andrew Brown.</font></strong><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#3366ff">Good quotes from George Diller during ascent&nbsp; "A man made rising sun on behalf of Japan"and my fav:&nbsp; "Guidence now converging......The on-board computer steering the shuttle for the on-ramp to the highway for the international space station"</font>&nbsp; <br /><strong>Posted by thor06</strong></DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The classic quotes you are attributing to George Diller actually came from NASA Johnson-based PAO, Rob Navias.&nbsp; Diller is based at Kennedy and handles the countdown commentary on those occasions he's rostered on.&nbsp; Navias has handled the majority of ascent commentaries since I have had NASA TV installed at home, and he did have a legendary stint on the Kazakhstan steppe chasing after Soyuz capsules.&nbsp; The Navias analogies flowed like water that day!</p><p>But, you are right, he does have a classic turn of phrase.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>SK&nbsp; <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/7/331fdd24-3b41-4704-b7f3-2d4f477c93ec.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[Boris_Badenov]

<font size="2">When does the porch for the Kibo lab go up?</font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>When does the porch for the Kibo lab go up? <br />Posted by boris1961</DIV></p><p>I believe it is all on orbit and that the porch is a deployable.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[thor06]

<p>oops! <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-embarassed.gif" border="0" alt="Embarassed" title="Embarassed" /></p><p>&nbsp; Thanks for the heads up SK.</p><p>I&nbsp; edited the post. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> <font color="#0000ff">                           www.watchnasatv.com</font></p><p>                          ONE PERCENT FOR NASA! </p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I believe it is all on orbit and that the porch is a deployable. <br /> Posted by Testing</DIV></p><p>No the porch goes up on STS-127 next year.</p><p>The KSC launch commentator yesterday was Allard Beutel. It was his first launch. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#3366ff">The KSC launch commentator yesterday was Allard Beutel. It was his first launch. <br /></font><strong>Posted by bpcooper</strong></DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thanks Ben, he did a great job and managed to collar even more 'expert comments' folks to add colour than George normally does.&nbsp; I think I'm right in saying there has been one other PAO do the countdown commentary on one occasion since RTF?&nbsp; I don't suppose you know who that was?</p><p>Diller is the undisputed king of countdown though.&nbsp; There's something very reassuring about his voice.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>SK&nbsp; <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/11/06b81ccf-ec02-47e3-9bf4-d9b6870e8517.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[earth_bound_misfit]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>No the porch goes up on STS-127 next year.The KSC launch commentator yesterday was Allard Beutel. It was his first launch. <br /> Posted by bpcooper</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Will the deck chairs and beer fridge also get delivered with the porch </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Will the deck chairs and beer fridge also get delivered with the porch <br />Posted by earth_bound_misfit</DIV></p><p>I read somewhere that they were plannibg some type of fermentation experiment.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Possible OMS problem; gimbaling on one engine; consider&nbsp;it them failed until proven otherwise.IT IS NOT AN IMMEDIATE PROBLEM.Just being cautious...as in the NASA mantra.&nbsp; <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>This is not a big deal, just loss of redundancy, The primary TVC system is mechanically and electrically separate from the secondary system.</p><p>The failure happend right at max Q. It looks like the secondary TVC system power supply shorted out.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>When does the porch for the Kibo lab go up? <br />Posted by boris1961</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>STS-127 in the spring/summer of 2009<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;The commentator said there were two other redundant systems to rotate the engines right?&nbsp; I didn't quite hear it. Comforting still that mission control says its not detramental.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by neuvik</DIV><br /><br />No, one other system on the left side, however:</p><p>&nbsp;a single engine OMS burn can be done instead of using both OMS engines.</p><p>Also the left engine can be used alone with&nbsp;no TVC control using the Orbiter RCS systen to control the vehicle attitude. </p><p>Also the RCS can be used to do the de-orbit burn if no OMS engines are available (a long (about 20 min)&nbsp;4 RCS thruster burn)</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<div class="Discussion_PostQuote">If it was at 3:30, it's really not an issue for this flight, AFAIK. However, for the Hubble mission, it's ore of an issue; however there's 4 months to go.&nbsp;Regarding OMS engine problem, the problem was not in the operating (primary) system, the fault was in the (unused) backup system. At least that's what I am hearing. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</div><p>&nbsp;QUOTE]Is this due to shuttle's inability to goto station during Hubble mission, or ascent issue?&nbsp;side note : launch video is uphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bOh3iDcH4I <br />Posted by thor06[/QUOTE]</p><p>No, the pad damage must be repaired before the next mission which is the Hubble mission.</p><p>The OMS issue has nothing to do with the Hubble mission.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>No, one other system on the left side, however:&nbsp;a single engine OMS burn can be done instead of using both OMS engines.Also the left engine can be used alone with&nbsp;no TVC control using the Orbiter RCS systen to control the vehicle attitude. Also the RCS can be used to do the de-orbit burn if no OMS engines are available (a long (about 20 min)&nbsp;4 RCS thruster burn) <br />Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV><br /><br />Shuttle Pad damaged during launch (Thanx Brellis)</p><p>Photos in the SpaceflightNow article</p><p>http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts124/080601pad/</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>"Launch pad 39A at the Kennedy Space Center suffered unusual damage during the shuttle Discovery's blastoff Saturday, NASA officials said Sunday. </p><p>A photograph of the side of the pad directly behind the "flame trench" used to divert exhaust from the shuttle's solid-fuel boosters shows unidentified debris splashing into water behind the pad as Discovery climbed away. Pictures from a NASA source show buckled concrete and numerous concrete blocks or bricks, presumably from the flame trench, littering a road behind the pad."</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Is the reason they instructed them not to test the secondary left OMS system because they want to preserve the state of it until they can analyse it properly later (or indeed, when its back at Kennedy?)And just to clarify (probably a rather obvious question I know..) - the two OMS engines are entirely separate from the three main engines aren't they? I only ask as we always see the gimbal test of the latter on camera 070 immediately prior to launch.. - I wondered if there was any redundancy if both the primary and secondary electronics failed. <br />Posted by williamt</DIV></p><p>First question answer is....yes</p><p>second question answer also yes, the main engines (SSME) are only used during ascent. They can not be used on orbit.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I believe it is all on orbit and that the porch is a deployable. <br />Posted by Testing</DIV></p><p>The "porcd"&nbsp;goes up on STS-127 next year</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The "porcd"&nbsp;goes up on STS-127 next year&nbsp; <br />Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV></p><p>Thank you for the correction. Pad damage looks pretty extensive. Hope the vehicle did not catch any of that.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[rybanis]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Thank you for the correction. Pad damage looks pretty extensive. Hope the vehicle did not catch any of that. <br /> Posted by Testing</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Woah. Thats interesting. I would think that any concrete would be thrown clear of the orbiter?&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Shuttle Pad damaged during launch (Thanx Brellis)Photos in the SpaceflightNow articlehttp://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts124/080601pad/&quot;Launch pad 39A at the Kennedy Space Center suffered unusual damage during the shuttle Discovery's blastoff Saturday, NASA officials said Sunday. A photograph of the side of the pad directly behind the "flame trench" used to divert exhaust from the shuttle's solid-fuel boosters shows unidentified debris splashing into water behind the pad as Discovery climbed away. Pictures from a NASA source show buckled concrete and numerous concrete blocks or bricks, presumably from the flame trench, littering a road behind the pad." <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>The briks that hit the water were thrown about 2,000 ft.</p><p>The biggest problem is the entire area is now contaminated. The refractor bricks contain <font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">asbestos.</font>&nbsp;</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Woah. Thats interesting. I would think that any concrete would be thrown clear of the orbiter?&nbsp; <br />Posted by rybanis</DIV></p><p>Probably however debris could have <font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">ricocheted back to the vehicle.</font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>