Large meteorite hits Norway; no damage but tremors felt

[silylene old]

Interesting! Hit Norway at 2 AM Wednesday.<br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>...snip...<br />"I saw a brilliant flash of light in the sky, and this became a light with a tail of smoke," Bruvold told Aftenposten.no. He photographed the object and then continued to tend to his animals when he heard an enormous crash.<br /><br />"I heard the bang seven minutes later. It sounded like when you set off a solid charge of dynamite a kilometer (0.62 miles) away," Bruvold said.<br /><br />Astronomers were excited by the news.<br /><br />"There were ground tremors, a house shook and a curtain was blown into the house," Norway's best known astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard told Aftenposten.no.<br /><br />Røed Ødegaard said the meteorite was visible to an area of several hundred kilometers despite the brightness of the midnight sunlit summer sky. The meteorite hit a mountainside in Reisadalen in North Troms.<br /><br />"This is simply exceptional. I cannot imagine that we have had such a powerful meteorite impact in Norway in modern times. If the meteorite was as large as it seems to have been, we can compare it to the Hiroshima bomb. Of course the meteorite is not radioactive, but in explosive force we may be able to compare it to the (atomic) bomb," Røed Ødegaard said.<br /><br />The astronomer believes the meteorite was a giant rock and probably the largest known to have struck Norway.<br /><br />"The record was the Alta meteorite that landed in 1904. That one was 90 kilos (198 lbs) but we think the meteorite that landed Wednesday was considerably larger," Røed Ødegaard said, and urged members of the public who saw the object or may have found remnants to contact the Institute of Astrophysics....snip<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Story here:<br />http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1346411.ece <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>

 

[tom_hobbes]

Wow! Hope we find out more about this. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>

 

[brellis]

did anyone see this coming? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#ff0000"><em><strong>I'm a recovering optimist - things could be better.</strong></em></font> </p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>did anyone see this coming?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Probably not. It's very hard to spot stuff this small. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[brandbll]

I can't imagine it would take long to find it. If they are talking about the explosive power of a Hiroshima bomb wouldn't the cloud of smoke be pretty easy to spot? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="3">You wanna talk some jive? I'll talk some jive. I'll talk some jive like you've never heard!</font></p> </div>

 

[michaelmozina]

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/region/Europe.php<br /><br />There weren't any recorded tremors in the surface crust in Norway today, so I suspect it was mostly an "atmospheric" event. The shock waves were likely airborne in other words. I would think that an actual strike to the surface with the power of a nuclear weapon would show up as at least a 1.0 micro-tremor of some sort. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds. - Kristian Birkeland </div>

 

[centrigma]

(I posted the following links in my original post this morning, but feel that it also should be in this new thread)<br />Some more information (sorry, but this first link is in Norwegian at this time) can be found at http://www.astro.uio.no/ita/nyheter/ildkule06/ildkule06.html. Towards the bottom of this page you will find a dark night time picture of another fireball from 1998 and they say that today’s meteorite was 1000 brighter. ARCES earthquake monitoring system registered an earthquake with local magnitude 2.9 north of Karasjok in Finmark. See the ARCES site for info in English http://www.norsar.no/NDC/stations/ARC/

 

[robnissen]

Question: If they find a meteorite, and they have some pictures of it in the atmosphere, could it be tracked back where it came from? Just wondering, because I'm curious if there is any possiiblity this was a small fragment from the comet that broke up?

 

[robnissen]

"There weren't any recorded tremors in the surface crust in Norway"<br /><br />I thought one of the articles said there was 2.6 tremor in Norway today??

 

[centrigma]

More info about the meteorite strike:<br />Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten.no has posted a picture that they say potential can be one of strikes sites http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article1346820.ece Currently there is no English translation of the page, but it says that it struck in Reisa-valley (Reisadalen in Norwegian) in North-Troms. It also says that astronomer and the observatory supervisor at the Northern lights observatory in Tromsø (Truls Lynne Hansen), believes that it was only a 10-12 Kg sized object and he object to the comparison to a Hiroshima sized bomb. Well stay tuned and hopefully the news media will continue to bring more information about this.

 

[cyclonebuster]

Link<br /><br /><br />The center of the Earth will pass within .00001AU (930 MILES)of the orbital plane of fragment "S" on June 12th 2006.We will see many more of these events in the next few days.<br /><br />Link<br />

 

[cyclonebuster]

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1346411.ece<br /><br />http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db_shm?rec=900458

 

[fingle]

I used The Orbits Diagrams/Simulator from nasa and the closest pass I could find for Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3-S, already happend on may 29th at 0.0709 AU = 10,606,489.0539 kilometers.<br /><br />but there are a heck of a lot of fragments to that beast, check the orbit diagrams for other Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 fragments, maybe you meant one of the other fragments.<br /><br />other near earth objects or potentially hazardous asteroids can be view at The Near Earth Object Program.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[cyclonebuster]

You miss understand what I posted. The center of the Earth passes .00001AU of fragment "S" ORBITAL PLANE. That means the Earth has to pass right through where the "S" fragment once was.<br /><br />Run the program and you will see how the Earth intersects the ORBITAL PLANE of the "S" fragment on the 12th of June 2006. Any fragments left behind the fragmenting fragment the Earth can run into it.<br /><br />http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db_shm?rec=900458

 

[qso1]

RobNissen:<br />Question: If they find a meteorite, and they have some pictures of it in the atmosphere, could it be tracked back where it came from? Just wondering, because I'm curious if there is any possiiblity this was a small fragment from the comet that broke up?<br /><br />Me:<br />They would need fairly precise images to determine the direction and angle at which the meteor came into the atmosphere. As for being from the comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3-S (If I recall the name right) that recently passed, I seriously doubt it was an object from the recent passage and I gave detailed explanations in the "Eric Julien" thread as to why. And having mentioned EJ, I'm sure his website has quickly posted that this is in fact a fragment from comet SW-3. It could be a fragment from past passages of that comet. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[fingle]

sorry about that chief. i guess i thought you meant the s fragment was going to be that close.<br /><br />my bad.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[qso1]

fingle:<br />but there are a heck of a lot of fragments to that beast,<br /><br />Me:<br />This means there will be future possibilities of impacts from SW-3s frags. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[fingle]

qso1:<br />This means there will be future possibilities of impacts from SW-3s frags.<br /><br />me:<br />I wonder if the meteor showers produce by 73P / Comet Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 will be named in the traditional way, the radient they seem to come from, or some other name. Just so long as they don't call them the " 73P / Comet Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 meteor shower".<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[qso1]

I hear that, I think the comet already produces a meteor shower from previous passages but I cannot recall the name. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[cyclonebuster]

<br /><br />http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005MNRAS.361..638W

 

[silylene old]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>The center of the Earth will pass within .00001AU (930 MILES)of the orbital plane of fragment "S" on June 12th 2006.We will see many more of these events in the next few days. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />We have covered this before. The comet,or any of its pieces, will not even come close to the earth, this is all crap. Please read the prior thread on this same subject and debate it here. comet pass<br /><br />AND FINALLY, QUIT HIJACKING THREADS. This thread is about the meteorite in Norway, not your cometary cockemamy. Thank you.<br /><br />Mission Control Team, please control this (again). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>

 

[cyclonebuster]

Dude I know that any fragments won't come close to our Earth. Why? Because one fragment just hit our Earth. I can't help it if the scientist were WRONG in the case of this fragment!!

 

[tom_hobbes]

<img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>

 

[qso1]

The Tau Herculid meteor shower and Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3, thanks, good link. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[qso1]

What makes you so certain the fragment is from SW-3? It could be just a random object that happen to come into our atmosphere. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>