Mars the anomalies The moon too.

[a_lost_packet_]

Make sure to not save it as a BMP if you want to compress its size down. Save as a jpg. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[bobw]

Jon<br /><br />Lots of parallax in that picture! It came out good.<br /><br />I'm still not convinced that cigar thing is real but the rocks are not clouds. When I was young our optometrist had one of those stereo viewers and let us take it home with a bunch of the cards. It was almost as good as a viewmaster with the round indexable media. I looked it up and those stereographs were pretty standard about 7 inches across which would make pierround's zooms about 20x. I just don't trust such subtle shading differences in a 130 year old picture.<br /><br />Also, the reverse side of the image says they sold for $3.00 per dozen. It is hard to imagine why Clough would use something so ambiguous for scaling purposes. Those viewers were pretty popular and people collected them like I collect DVD movies. I could be wrong, though, it wouldn't be the first time <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the anaglyph. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[pierround]

So far it worked.<br />When I looked for it in my pictures, it wouldn't show but about 10 of 50 pictures I have so I had to make a short cut to the desk top and access it from there.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>I am eager to see the crater because I can't find a single one on the whole original that has a horizontal line through it. No kidding, I guess I am stupid or something. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Don't think that way, cause I forgot I had paint.

 

[pierround]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p><br />It was almost as good as a viewmaster with the round indexable media.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Wow that brings back memories.<br />The kid upstairs had one but was very possessive about it.<br /> <br />

 

[pierround]

Here's the one above that crater.<br />

 

[telfrow]

Here it is, using Captura and resized in Office Picture Manager (no enhancements other than enlargement of the crop from the original). <br /><br /><i>Edited to correct spelling errors.</i><img src="/images/icons/blush.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Same thing, except this one was lighten using "Auto Correct." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[pierround]

I went there mirosoft office and I will have to reload it from a disk, something happened when I loaded the 2000 word program?<br />Not a big deal though.<br />I had to click and drag it into paint to get it in. <br /><br />What I liked about the picture it express was it had a slide for sharpness and I got a real clear picture of the toy truck, but it was too big, I'll see if I can use paint to resize it.

 

[pierround]

Nope format won't support it.<br />I'll have to reload and try the office program, damn microsoft.<br />You would think everything in here would match.

 

[telfrow]

To clarify: the two craters I assumed you were referencing ( and I cropped and enlarged) are labeled A and B on this photo. Correct? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[pierround]

yes

 

[3488]

What are we supposed to be looking at here???<br /><br />Two craters with central peaks near the Moon's North Pole as viewed by<br />the Jupiter bound Galileo Spacecraft<br />in December 1992.<br /><br />No anomalies there, or anywhare else on the Moon or Mars for that matter.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Good. <br /><br />Now maybe someone can provide us with the names of the craters in questions and we can find other photos - and lay this thing to rest once and for all. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[zenonmars]

bobw: <font color="yellow">"you can crop and save with it"</font><br /><br />Thank-you!!! I am way too lazy to go thru the tutorials! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> That was truely helpful. I "saved" your lesson to my "Dumb-Guy Documents" ! <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[yevaud]

None of us would think of calling you "dumb," because you aren't.<br /><br />Merely opinionated. <br /><br />If it's a crime, sue me as well. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[bobw]

Does anybody think these are the craters? I found the picture here:<br /><br />http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/moonpole_galileo_big.gif<br /><br />If those are them I think I can get the lat/long and put it in here:<br /><br />http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/clib/<br /><br />The light is from higher on the Clementine map and I haven't been able to match much up besides the mares. This is like looking for a needle in a haystack <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

Using the USGS polar map http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Gallery/MapsAndGlobes/large/moon_globe.pdf (warning, 3 MB file) I have identified this feature as the crater Fabry. Using the Clementine interactive map http://www.nrl.navy.mil/clm/ you can zoom in on Fabry. The “straight line†is actually a segment of a large and mostly obliterated crater rim. You can see it is curved in the Galileo image as well. You can zoom in at quote high resolution using the Clementine data. Itis about 70 km long and 5 km wide. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

Using the USGS polar map http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Gallery/MapsAndGlobes/large/moon_globe.pdf (warning, 3 MB file) I have identified this feature as the crater Compton. Using the Clementine interactive map http://www.nrl.navy.mil/clm/ you can zoom in on Compton. The central peak consists of two sub peaks. There is nothing unusual in this, Hayn has four quite separate peaks, while Copernicus and Tisolkovskiy have multiple peaks.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

pierround - If you don't have a decent bit of imaging software, "gimp" isn't too bad. Plus, the best thing about it is its free.<br /><br />http://www.gimp.org/<br /><br />Go get it, have fun. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[pierround]

Jon can you sharpen that image?<br />That would show us much more.<br />The central peak is odd looking.<br />After zooming on the crater with the line in, it might be a fracture in the floor of the crater.<br /><br />

 

[JonClarke]

I just copied telfrow's images. if you want look at higher res, use the clementine links, you can search by crater name. I have been trying to find a way of saving a screen shot, no luck so far.<br /><br />jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[bobw]

I found some pictures with a high sun angle. It sure looks different. No anomalies here! I couldn't figgure out the name from the .pdf. You are right about the names, I guess that is why you get the BIG bucks <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />http://www.rccr.cremona.it/monografie/luna/fabry.htm <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobw]

This is the best I could do with the Clementine website. When I tried to get the raw data a lot of them said "image not available". I guess the streaks are where data didn't overlap. <br /><br />Edit: it does show up more of the arc of that obliterated crater rim than the big picture at the link above does. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobw]

Here's what I ended up with for Compton from Clementine. That free software "Virtual Moon Atlas" seems to be tying together US, ESA & RSA data. Pretty cool. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[pierround]

Those look like them and yes it's like looking for a needle all right.<br />I looked at about ten shots of Mars yesterday Taken with the best cameras sent yet, at least by Nasa.<br />All of them were excellent and then there is the one that brings up the question is it missing data or deliberate?<br />I look for things they may have missed in the good ones. <br />They can do any thing. <br />