STS-117 (13A) Mission- Part II

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The happily newly married couple (Atlantis & ISS) are just about to pass over<br />the South Island of New Zealand for their honeymoon. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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ckikilwai

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<img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />
 
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It looks as though the happy couple (Atlantis & ISS) are going to pass over northern France, <br />only just to the south of where I am in Ashford, Kent, UK. 21:02 GMT / 22:02 CET.<br /><br />I will go out & look.<br /><br />Should be visible in the twilight!!!<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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I was just trying to throw a bit of humour into this <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />.<br /><br />I think we can, the whole thing has gone extremely well.<br /><br />I do not blame you for not wanting to retire.<br /><br />It is dedicated people like yourself, that will enable mankind to progress.<br /><br />Thank you very much for working on this.<br /><br />Andrew Brown.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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ckikilwai

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"You do not have to be married to ....dock."<br />LOL <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />
 
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SpaceKiwi

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Welcome back online, SG, and thanks for all the question answers.<br /><br />It was a picture-perfect launch this time around, about your best work yet I reckon. (and good not to see ECO Sensor conversations come up in here for a change!) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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ckikilwai

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hey did Suni Williams had hair cut? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br />It looked so funny in zero gravity before !
 
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With the sophistication involved, I am suprised that this works at all.<br /><br />You are doing a fab job shuttle_guy.<br /><br />It is because of people like you as well as the others on these boards, that<br />humans are still not living in caves, clubbing animals<br />& dragging their knuckles on the ground.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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"Not at all. It is programed into the on board computer. The commander presses the "proceed" button....that is all it takes. "<br /><br />Well a little simplified... <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />But really, timing and performing the RPM photography itself is fairly tricky. A lot of on orbit training to whittle it down to the two best (in this case Fyodor and Oleg), hearing the calls at the right time because angle and lighting is critical, overlapping the photos just right, the comm is a rather odd hybrid of headset and panels...it is a little ballet in the Russian segment.
 
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Knowing a fair bit about photography, the exposure, & angle of sunlight is<br />crucial to enable the very high resolution imagery, RPM photography, required to confirm the heat shield<br />is not damaged.<br /><br />Obviously loss of resolution will result from either over or under exposure.<br /><br />The shuttle underbelly is very dark as compared to the Earth below, so location must be<br />also be accounted for.<br /><br />For instance it is easier over a dark blue ocean, dark green rainforest or dark coloured<br />desert, than over mountains with snow & glaciers.<br /><br />AFAIK, they can even use these images to check that the tiles are still bedded in properly,<br />not only for damage.<br /><br />I am off to bed now, it is getting late here now, great day on these boards.<br /><br />Good night every one.<br /><br />I'll be back tomorrow.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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NASA TV live news conference ongoing.<br /><br />Certainly some concern as to how to deal with folded over blanket. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Where abouts on the shuttle is the bit of folded over blanket? Would it be easy to get to in the event of an EVA to work on it?
 
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emerrill

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It's on the OMS pod, i believe. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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That is correc, it is on the OMS pod. "Easy" is relative.<br />First it needs to be shown that anything needs to be done at all, then see what the options are.<br />Both these analyses and possible plans are running in parallel today, they should have much better feel for it by tomorrows MMT meeting. <br />The analysis is just not complete yet.<br />It seems NOT to be a serious concern for flight safety, but rather whether any thermal damage could occur to the structure of the OMS pod that could require later refurbishment or repair... not good for the timeline.<br />If they can avoid it by just tucking the blanket back in, they feel they might do that if any damage is possible. Then there are further options as far as anchoring it <i> which may not even be required </i>.<br />So, let the engineering teams do their job, and we'll see what develops.<br /><br />Earliest it would be attmpted, if needed, would be on EVA-3. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Yeah, the odds of it coming back as a safety issue seem low, given that they have lost OHM pod tiles before (STS-1) and lost a OHM pod blanket before (STS-6), and both times no real damage was done. But as MeteorWayne said, it may be a question of possible risk to the equipment life span. Also, the *may* be worried about the drag that edge may cause, and if it's going to peal back during reentry, which, depending on how it peals, could create a 'scoop', I would think. Of course, this is just my speculation, we'll have to wait to see what they come back with. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Well, it seems the return is in two parts. The first is 15-20 minutes of heating, then afterward comes significant aerodynamic issues. They don't occur at the same time.<br /><br />I got the sense if it peels back AFTER the heating period, the control issues are well within design limits.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Having a hard time getting my head around this truss structure. The P6 truss will be (fully) retracted and then redeployed, whereas the S6 will be launched at a later time, right? (STS-119 as far as I can determine) <br /><br />If so, when will it be moved? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "<font color="#0000ff"><em>The choice is the Universe, or nothing</em> ... </font>" - H.G Wells </div>
 
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Nevermind, found the info by now. Three cheers for Wikipedia.<br /><br />In case any were wondering, from Wiki:<br /><br />"The P6 truss was the second truss segment to be added, because it contains a large Solar Array Wing (SAW) that generated essential electricity for the station, prior to activation of the SAW on the P4 truss. It is currently mounted to the Z1 truss but it will be moved far along the port side main truss and mounted on the P5 truss during assembly mission 10A, STS-120. A later assembly mission (the out of sequence STS-119) will mount the S6 trusses on the starboard side and provide a fourth set of solar arrays and radiators."<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "<font color="#0000ff"><em>The choice is the Universe, or nothing</em> ... </font>" - H.G Wells </div>
 
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The 4th EVA to fix the thermal blanket issue, is it just a case of folding the blanket back to where it should be? I noticed on the pictures shown at the MMT briefing press conference that the stitching looked like it had come off. They going to have to do anything to secure the blanket in any way?<br /><br />Also, do you sit in the MMT Briefing shuttle_guy?<br /><br />Cheers
 
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That's how I interpreted the announcement - that some EVA3 tasks would be bumped to EVA4 so the repair could be done sooner. Perhaps they want a chance to revisit if necessary. This is a *medical* staple gun they are talking about, not something from Home Depot. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br />
 
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erioladastra

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<br />:p Wikipedia. That is over a year old. P6 will be relocated on STS-120/10A in October.
 
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Just thought I'd mention, I heard on NASA TV that the MIssion status briefing will be at 6PM EDT tonight on NASA TV, and at 9:13 PM the crew will be doing an interview with CBS TV and some local (?) stations.<br /><br />Can't wait to see what great questions get asked there. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />If Jay Barberee gets the first question at the Status briefing, I will be pissed, suspect a conspiracy, and write a letter of complaint <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />MW<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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I hope this isn't too wide.<br />Today's APOD is of the plume from the launch of STS 117.<br />Really cool!!<br />If I have to delete the image, you can find it here today, I'll edit the link to the permanent one tomorrow.<br />Edit:<br />I think the image fit OK so will leave it here unless it causes a problem.<br /><br />MW <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Fire alarm on ISS??? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<img src="/images/icons/blush.gif" /><br /><br />Hope everything is ok. Just put Nasa tv on. has this just happened?
 
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