STS-117 (13A) Mission- Part III

[Swampcat]

<font color="yellow">"And how much would something like that cost?"</font><br /><br />Fox News is reporting that it will cost the shuttle program $1.7M more because they landed in California.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

Just watching the landing for about the 10th time, still never get bored of seeing it.<br /><br />What would happen if the braking parachute (dunno if there is a more technical term for it) failed to open correctly? Is there any other way to slow the shuttle down quickly enough without it (reserve parachute for example)?

 

[holmec]

Welcome back Atlantis and crew. Congrats NASA for excellent mish. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

Let me know if its coming back through Eglin...<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

The drag chute has only been used since STS-49. It was also not deployed on STS-95 because the chute door fell off at launch. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[serak_the_preparer]

Was reading over one of your old posts in the SETI forum just yesterday. Now here you are after too long an absence. Welcome back!

 

[silylene old]

How well did the thermal blanket repair hold up during the landing? I hope this is inspected before they move the shuttle back to the Cape (wind buffeting on this trip may re-open the repair?). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>

 

[usn_skwerl]

IIRC, theres a sudden amount of downforce as the nose drops to the runway, almost slamming it, due to the shape of the wing, and the overall profile of the orbiter as it pitches into the negative AOA. am i correct?<br /><br />silylene, the blanket stretched back up the pod just a little, about an inch or so, but the staples and pins stayed in place. i assume it probably wont be a big issue for the trip to FL. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Has it ever been determined what caused the problem in the first place?<br />Was it an impact, or just aerodynamic buffeting. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[silylene old]

thanks, was just curious. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>

 

[radarredux]

> <i><font color="yellow">I agree, I like that HUD video.</font>/i><br /><br />The HUD view was totally cool. I hope NASA gets enough positive feedback from the public to make this standard (or even increase its use).</i>

 

[SpaceKiwi]

I <i>think</i> I'm right in saying that NASA TV selects the camera views we see on screen. Therefore, it's at the discretion of the director (or PAO if they don't have directors) how much or little we see of the HUD view.<br /><br />Because of my location, I get to see lots of 'graveyard-shift' NASA TV coverage during Shuttle missions. It's quite clear at that time that the commentator is selecting the views being displayed on the Channel.<br /><br />I think I might have mentioned this on a previous mission, but some of that stuff is incredibly interesting. Especially when the PAO will bring up what seem like console display screens for various Orbiter/ISS sub-systems and explain what all the read-outs mean.<br /><br />It really adds to the overall mission coverage and allows you to follow the 'play-by-play', almost as if you have managed to sneak into MCC and sit inconspicuously in one of the empty chairs to watch.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[earth_bound_misfit]

Yeah, these PAO's really seem to know their stuff! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>

 

[alokmohan]

So relieved it has come back.

 

[usn_skwerl]

i just googled the STS-3 landing..holy crap! it was almost surreal, between the slightly messy approach, and that nose lowering. i've never seen that video before. <br /><br />was there any damage from that nose drop (busted tire, strut...anything?)? i was almost expecting the nose gear to shear off. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[alokmohan]

No pint in post mortem.The maen are alive,more than enogh proof it was ok.

 

[emerrill]

Wow, no kidding. i had never seen that before either. Heck, it looks like he almost lifted the main gear back up. I can see it now 'Main gear touchdown at 9:04:46, main gear touchdown again at 9:04:50'. Makes me feel better about some of my landings (obviously not in a shuttle, but it's 'nice' to see veterans still make mistakes like that sometimes) <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

What speed is it traveling at touchdown?

 

[usn_skwerl]

usually around 200 kts. about 215-225 mph. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[3488]

Quite a fast landing speed as compared to most<br />civil airliners (Boeing 747 about 180 mph).<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

And remember, the glide path of a brick <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[usn_skwerl]

i know it falls at 10,000 ft/minute, just not sure what the glide slope is...all i know is that MW is absolutely right! lol <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />as it approaches, it goes nose down to about 19 degrees...people on a commercial plane would have to be given new suits if they were on a plane with that kind of profile <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[thereiwas]

A proper early NASA attitude. Let's not try to actually learn anything by analyzing mistakes.

 

[MeteorWayne]

For we mortals, that's about 224 mph or 100 meters/sec <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

In other words, very fast then <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />