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bobw

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<font color="yellow">do they close the outer hatch once the spacewalker(s) goes outside?</font><br /><br />The hatch opens inward and there is a thermal cover that stays velcro'd over the opening. When they go out they leave the hatch open but close the thermal cover back over the opening.<br /><br />It was an exciting EVA for sure but I still think the one where three astronauts grabbed the spinning satellite with their hands was the best but can't remember if that is the same one with the flyswatter on the arm, I think so.<br /><br />I missed the very beginning of the EVA so I am still wondering if they found the camera that was left outside (on the toolbox?) last time?<br /><br />Does anybody think the wire in the cufflinks will bend at the grommets over time and allow the panels to flatten out some more or will it stay the way it is forever? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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usn_skwerl

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bobw, they're grabbing the camera once they head back inside. peggy reminded them to get it before wiping their feet. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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bobw

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Thanks. I was awake when they were putting their suits on but it didn't last <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />Edit: I thought they were done but it sounds like they still have to take the solar array to final tension. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Apparently one tool floated away, moving faster in orbit than the station. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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3488

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Confirmation of successful repair & deployment. Spaceflightnow.com.<br /><br />Good news indeed. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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I got my confirmation from NASA TV's live coverage of the event.<br />I trust that more than spaceflightnow <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Hi MeteorWayne,<br /><br />I would normally too, but NASA tv does not appear to download & if it does, it causes problems. <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /><br /><br />Now my computer setup is working well, I would rather not tempt fate. <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /><br /><br />So at the moment Spaceflightnow.com appears to be my most reliable source.<br /><br /><font color="yellow">From Justin Ray, Spaceflightnow.com.<br /><br />1635 GMT (12:35 p.m. EDT)<br /><br />A wire-cutter tool has floated away from one of the spacewalkers as they were putting <br />away their gear before heading back into the airlock.</font><br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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CONGRATS TO NASA! I'm very proud of them today.<br /><br />This EVA is certainly in the top 3 in the shuttle era. SolarMAX and Storey Musgrave's Hubble fix with the adaptive optics are tough to beat.<br /><br />But Longbo made it look easy, didn't he?<br /><br />I have questions: these cufflinks and straps 'just happened' to be available? There was mention of them being 'home-made' by the CDR and PLT. Does that mean these were from ship's stores as contingency items? Or were they brought up on this mission, with an eye for possible use on solar panels? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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They were made from "stuff" that was on board. THe cut, drilled, taped, twisted and manufactured them from whatever was on hand on orbit.<br /><br />BTW Mission Status Briefing is scheduled for 45 min from now at the top of the hour. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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BTW, I heard the newly deployed array is now on autotrack. That reinforces the success of the repairs. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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'Stuff' that was on board Shuttle or ISS?<br /><br />They drilled? Cutting and twisting I understand, but as a manufacturing engineer, I'm quite curious about the details on this. It is not easy to hand-fabricate clips with a high spring rate, for example. It's not easy to drill small pieces without a good fixture of some kind. Perhaps unless you're a bunch of very clever astronauts, that is.<br /><br />My bandwidth sux these days, not sure if I'll be able to watch the briefing. I'll try, thanx for the heads up.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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bobw

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When will they know if the equipment on the boom got damaged by temperature extremes? I thought I heard something about a camera at ~40 degrees C but don't know what camera it was. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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ckikilwai

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"I have questions: these cufflinks and straps 'just happened' to be available? There was mention of them being 'home-made' by the CDR and PLT. Does that mean these were from ship's stores as contingency items? Or were they brought up on this mission, with an eye for possible use on solar panels?"<br /><br />They were made from aluminum strips that were there in case they too make some custom tools, I think they were aboard the ISS for a while.
 
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MeteorWayne

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Yes, from what I recall hearing (I can't really confirm details) they cut and drilled pieces of aluminum plate to create the ends of the cufflinks.<br /><br />Nothing with a high spring rate; it was stiff aluminum plate.<br /><br />This is all from an admittedly sporadic memory, so maybe others know more.<br /><br />If any further details come out at the briefing, I'll post 'em.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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bobw

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During a news conference replay this morning I heard that they "punched" the holes. I have seen little punch sets where you put sheet metal between two plates with various sized holes and hit the punch with a hammer. I know they did use a file to remove the burrs after they cut the metal parts. The toggle things are 3/4" wide and several inches long. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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That would make more sense than drilling. Thanx. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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holmec

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Ditto...Congrats NASA.<br /><br />Risky, new ways of using tools (arm extension....etc), success.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Sure, but considering the circumstances, that wasn't even in the top 3 priorities. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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holmec

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You know, that makes me think that it might not be a bad idea to have some kind of a kit with some tools and some material to build stuff like that as needed. You know in case of ......cases like this.<br /><br />Maintenance guys (on Earth, of course) often carry extra tools and some material just in case. Perhaps the ISS should as well. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Well, obviously they had enough extra tools and materials to accomplish this unplanned task.<br />I imagine if a locker door provided a needed material, it would be used pretyy quickly <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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holmec

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Sweet. What do they call it? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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holmec

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Yes, we know NASA has the tenacity of Phileas Fogg. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Well they had enough non conductive material to make the "hockey stick" (Teflon IIRC) it was not an actual hockey stick like the amazingly ignorant Jay Barbaree suggested. SO, think about it. The ISS is actually a pretty big place, with lots of different materials around.<br /><br />I know it's hard to believe, but they don't actually carry hockey sticks on board <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />I myself have used my hockey stick to clear ice from my gutters in an emergnecy, but not sure I'd recommend that for the ISS. Too much temptation to play "microgravity hockey" <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />In a time of need, you use what you have, and you have a lot there.<br />Both in quantity, and variety of materials.<br /><br />Those engineers who came up with the idea and figured out what to use, and how to use it deserve a bunch of credit. In just a few hours, no less. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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holmec

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This is getting off subject. Perhaps we should make a new post. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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What's off topic? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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