STS-124 ( 1J ) Mission Thread

thor06 · May 29, 2008

Way to go JAXA!  I hope this huge laboratory and it's counter-parts become a craddle for some of the world's greatest scientific discoverys. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> www.watchnasatv.com ONE PERCENT FOR NASA! </div>

MeteorWayne · May 29, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Great info, thanks Wayne.  I missed the briefing today.The issue with the SARJ scares me.  This phrase in paticular " breaks irretrievably" puts a lump in my throat.Am I right that this could limit crew size?  I don't think I'm the only one who has really been looking forward to 6+ on the station.   side note: I seriously did a "spit take" when I read "thunder box".  Haven't heard that one before...lol. Thanks earth_bound_misfit Posted by thor06</DIV> Just to clarify, the "breaks irretrievably" words were mine, no one aver said those words, or I would have put it in quotes. It is the impression, that they will try and use the current ring (or raceway) as long as possible until they understand the root cause of the problem. They don't want to switch to the other ring until they have to. One such circumstance would be if it really broke or locked up. Once they understand it, they may indeed switch to the other ring if that is indicated, but if they do that, there is no backup. So wait as long as possible, and baby this one along while troubleshooting/repair goes on.That would cause serious power problems for the ISS, limiting how much work could be done, and future power consuming modules could be installed. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

thor06 · May 29, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Just to clarify, the "breaks irretrievably" words were mine, no one aver said those words, or I would have put it in quotes. It is the impression, that they will try and use the current ring (or raceway) as long as possible until they understand the root cause of the problem. They don't want to switch to the other ring until they have to. One such circumstance would be if it really broke or locked up. Once they understand it, they may indeed switch to the other ring if that is indicated, but if they do that, there is no backup. So wait as long as possible, and baby this one along while troubleshooting/repair goes on.That would cause serious power problems for the ISS, limiting how much work could be done, and future power consuming modules could be installed. Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV> Cool, thanks for the follow up.  I'l keep my fingers crossed and hope they can get it resolved.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> www.watchnasatv.com ONE PERCENT FOR NASA! </div>

erioladastra · May 30, 2008

Some clarifications and answers: No, the STS toilet would be at the "edge" to support everyone but we are trying to work that out because we know they will ("Hey droogies, you can use ours for number 1, and number 1 only" - not very poltical).  I am not optimistic that the spare filter will work since we know it has the same manufacturing defect as the others do.  But we can figure out if that is really the problem and then perform a work around (i.e., punch a hole in it perhaps).The braycote lubrication being applied is only a test of a small part to test techniques - not lube the whole ring.  The objectives are to test a suspicious bump/crater, try to see if we can clean some of the material off and apply the lube.  Also a TBA will be installed.

MeteorWayne · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Some clarifications and answers: No, the STS toilet would be at the "edge" to support everyone but we are trying to work that out because we know they will ("Hey droogies, you can use ours for number 1, and number 1 only" - not very poltical).  I am not optimistic that the spare filter will work since we know it has the same manufacturing defect as the others do.  But we can figure out if that is really the problem and then perform a work around (i.e., punch a hole in it perhaps).The braycote lubrication being applied is only a test of a small part to test techniques - not lube the whole ring.  The objectives are to test a suspicious bump/crater, try to see if we can clean some of the material off and apply the lube.  Also a TBA will be installed.  Posted by erioladastra</DIV> Thax for the cralification. In previous briefing they said the lube would be applied to only a small part; this one they weren't clear on that point. BTW, what is TBA? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

tadpoletriker · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Thax for the cralification. In previous briefing they said the lube would be applied to only a small part; this one they weren't clear on that point. BTW, what is TBA? Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV> Trundle Bearing Assembly maybe?Since they can be replaced, I wonder if the race ring can also if it becomes imperitive?

MeteorWayne · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Trundle Bearing Assembly maybe?</DIV>D'oh! I should have figured that out. STill early in the morning

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Since they can be replaced, I wonder if the race ring can also if it becomes imperitive?  Posted by tadpoletriker</DIV>I recall that is possible, but would be a major undertaking. Could be wrong, I'll leave that answer to the experts. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

MeteorWayne · May 30, 2008

L- 1 Day Countown Status BriefingDiscovery is ready. Onboard Cryos loaded with 8 days reserve. Acces platorms retreating after work completed. T-11

o hold at 11 AM, ground comm checks will start. Final experiment (vaccine) to be loaded into mid deck 5 PM this evening. PAd should be clear by 5 AM with Tanking scheduled for 7:37 AM (0% chance of weather prohibiting tanking) Mission is 14 days, with 1 contingency and 2 weather days. 3 EVA's Landing ~ 11AM June 14.Delta II GLAST launch scheduled for June 5, so no STS launch will occur from the 3rd through the 6th, pick up again on the 7th. No contraints from STS or ISS for remainder of June.Weather Saturday 20% chance of bad weather, 2 good Conus landing sites, FMI TAL site good Sunday 30% ch nogo, 2 good conus, i good TAL (MRN) Monday 60% ch nogo (more typical summer weather, ch thunderstorms) 2 good US, MRN TAL.That's about it, see everyone tomorrow! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

Testing · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Trundle Bearing Assembly maybe?Since they can be replaced, I wonder if the race ring can also if it becomes imperitive?  Posted by tadpoletriker</DIV>Trundle Bearing Assy. is correct.  And there is an alternate or spare race assembly adjacent to the one being used now. Moving over to it would not be fun but can be done. They would most likely not do that until it is understood what happened to the primary or had no other choice. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

tadpoletriker · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>And there is an alternate or spare race assembly adjacent to the one being used now. Moving over to it would not be fun but can be done. They would most likely not do that until it is understood what happened to the primary or had no other choice. Posted by Testing</DIV>I never am clear enough

.  I wonder  if  in addition  to  switching  to the second bearing race, the first could be in whole or in part be replaced?TT

Testing · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I never am clear enough

.  I wonder  if  in addition  to  switching  to the second bearing race, the first could be in whole or in part be replaced?TT  Posted by tadpoletriker</DIV>There was a previous thread that addressed alot of details on this when the SARJ FOD was first discovered. Try a search on SARJ, FOD and TBA. I do not believe it would be practicle to replace the track race. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

SpaceKiwi · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Toilet history. Russians believe this pump is the problem, so high confidence this will fix, currently scheduled for June 4, but would not be surprised if it is done sooner. Original pump worked for many years. 2 spares that had been on orbit for quite a while both failed within a day or two after install. Current replacement pump being sent up is from a different lot, and has been tested to the best of the Russians ability. Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV> I'm surprised they are not flying at least two pumps up there, given the history, and despite the testing.  I guess it comes down to no room or spare weight allowance on the Orbiter, but I'd be quite nervous they're going to be no better off come the end of the '124 mission.  From what erioladastra has said it sounds like they might have a 'warranty voiding', rough and ready, fix up their sleeve anyway so I guess that alleviates things a bit. SK  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/3/3704fe11-0312-4c35-9328-c2490d0de414.Medium.gif" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bring Back The Black! </div>

SpaceKiwi · May 30, 2008

As we are getting ever nearer to the STS-124 launch in 19 hours or so, I'd just like to wish SG and erioladastra (if you're supporting this mission) the best of luck with getting Discovery safely into LEO and on her way to ISS.  I'm looking forward to another productive and trouble-light mission over the next couple of weeks, and will certainly be watching with a great deal of interest.  As always, I will also be looking forward to your insights and observations from the 'front lines' as things get underway.Good-luck Guys, and Godspeed Discovery and the '124 crew. SK  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/15/6dc557fb-4878-434f-bf82-c1f8eba04303.Medium.gif" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bring Back The Black! </div>

scottb50 · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>There was a previous thread that addressed alot of details on this when the SARJ FOD was first discovered. Try a search on SARJ, FOD and TBA. I do not believe it would be practicle to replace the track race. Posted by Testing</DIV>I would be more concerned the debris from the failed race, bearing or whatever is the as yet undefined problem would cause problems with switching to the backup. Once the baqckup is damaged the whole thing is a loss. Similar problems haven't shown up on the other assemblies, so it sounds like it is a materials, alignment or assembly failure in that one unit. One alternative would be to go to Wally World and by a case of canned air and blow the stuff out. Run it a while and see exactly where the problem is. Replacing the entire assembly would probably take a dedicated Shuttle mission and everytime anyone talks about extending the arbitrary deadline for the Shuttle the red flags start waving.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

MeteorWayne · May 31, 2008

Tanking underway, ECO sensors working fine

<div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

Swampcat · May 31, 2008

NASATV coverage has begun. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> ------------------------------------------------------------------- "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."Thomas Jefferson </div>

SpaceKiwi · May 31, 2008

Just checking in.  Currently working no issues, the '124 Crew are in the Suit Up Room right now. SK  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/10/f3001ad4-399c-48e0-aa7a-fd73215d98b7.Medium.gif" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bring Back The Black! </div>

newsartist · May 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Just checking in.  Currently working no issues, the '124 Crew are in the Suit Up Room right now. SK  Posted by SpaceKiwi</DIV> Please keep posting updates Kiwi!MeteorWayne and I are both under the weather gun this afternoon. Serious stuff will be hitting me just about the time for the Terminal Count, so a quick refresh on events will be great to read here if I can get on between cells.We should start a new "Flight Thread" when an actual launch happens too, ...the way we have before, (with the ISS mission designation first in the thread title?).   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

SpaceKiwi · May 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Please keep posting updates Kiwi!MeteorWayne and I are both under the weather gun this afternoon. Serious stuff will be hitting me just about the time for the Terminal Count, so a quick refresh on events will be great to read here if I can get on between cells.We should start a new "Flight Thread" when an actual launch happens too, ...the way we have before, (with the ISS mission designation first in the thread title?).  Posted by newsartist</DIV> Understood news.  They have just come out of the T-3 hour hold, and the crew are on their way to the Astrovan. SK  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/3/c9259b55-9af3-4016-837c-8f0d96b482c6.Medium.gif" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bring Back The Black! </div>

3488 · May 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Understood news.  They have just come out of the T-3 hour hold, and the crew are on their way to the Astrovan. SK  Posted by SpaceKiwi</DIV>Looks like the launch is on schedule.Andrew. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

MeteorWayne · May 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Please keep posting updates Kiwi!MeteorWayne and I are both under the weather gun this afternoon. Serious stuff will be hitting me just about the time for the Terminal Count, so a quick refresh on events will be great to read here if I can get on between cells.We should start a new "Flight Thread" when an actual launch happens too, ...the way we have before, (with the ISS mission designation first in the thread title?).  Posted by newsartist</DIV>First line has weakly passed me here (0.12" rain, light thunderstorm), currently no echos to the west (though we remain under a tornado watch).However, the sun is currently out, which is heating up the soup. We shall see if more storms develop.I am tuned in to NASA TV and will post any developments I hear about.Watching NGEO channel show on storm chasers including a TIV (Tornado Intercept Vehicle) an armored vehicle intended to be driven into a tornado. 7 Ton vehicle... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

3488 · May 31, 2008

STS 124 crew on astrovan going to Discovery.Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

SpaceKiwi · May 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>First line has weakly passed me here (0.12" rain, light thunderstorm), currently no echos to the west (though we remain under a tornado watch. Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV> Stay safe, Guys.  The Astrovan has dropped off Steve Lindsey, Jerry Ross, etc, and is now rolling towards the Pad.I just looked up the '123 Mission Thread, and it appears we got everything from George's processing notes to wheels stop into Meteor's thread last time.The crew are now at the Pad, just about to hit the elevator after a cursory inspection at Ground Level. SK  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/15/47ea41ab-d4ff-476c-9f92-f3da8aa3f535.Medium.gif" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bring Back The Black! </div>

3488 · May 31, 2008

Astrovan has arrived at pad, STS 124 crew gotten out & are at the base of the elevator, looking up at Discovery.Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

MeteorWayne · May 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> I just looked up the '123 Mission Thread, and it appears we got everything from George's processing notes to wheels stop into Meteor's thread last time.The crew are now at the Pad, just about to hit the elevator after a cursory inspection at Ground Level. SK  Posted by SpaceKiwi</DIV> Uplink was a VERY exciting place

<div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

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