Shenzhou VI Mission Thread

[tmccort]

Good to hear.

 

[tap_sa]

- RE-ENTRY MODULE LANDS 1 KM FROM PRESET SPOT<br /><br />Wohoo! Way to go China!

 

[j05h]

>- RE-ENTRY MODULE LANDS 1 KM FROM PRESET SPOT<br /> />Wohoo! Way to go China!<br /><br />That "primitive" capsule just shot all the "we need crossrange" arguments in the foot. We could land CEV inside of LAX or other major airports, if need be. Edwards or White Sands makes more sense of course. A capsule like this with parasail could land on a pre-set pad, like a heli-pad but with a big "C" painted on it. 8)<br /><br />Josh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>

 

[ace5]

Shenzhou VI touched down at 20:32 GMT!!!!<br />The mission was a complete success.<br />Let us see the pictures of the landed capsule. Did it land on its side or is sitting up?

 

[ace5]

thanks, bobw, for the Xinhua link:<br />http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2005s6/news.htm<br /><br />Look at the images!!!

 

[SpaceKiwi]

Congratulations again to the Chinese on the successful completion of their mission. Roll on Shenzhou 7. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[yree]

"Just read the report on SDC, things seem to be progressing well for the Shenzhou crew so far. I wonder if they will have a go at a docking procedure. The article seemed dismissive of such an idea, but I don't know that I would be surprised if they did.<br /><br />And, on another comment made in the article, let's have a quick look at the scoreboards ...<br /><br /><br />Human Spaceflight Achieved<br />Communism 2 - Capitalism 1<br /><br />Operational Human Spacecraft<br />Communism 2 - Capitalism 0<br /><br /><br />Let's hope it is not too long before NASA and the ESA can restore the 'honour' of the West!"<br /><br />china is a capitalism country!!!

 

[gaetanomarano]

<br /><br />"...Add to that, "if everything works as planned..."<br /><br />please, add: "if the (fragile) parachutes will open, if parachutes will not be damaged, if the weather is good, if CEV don't land in sea (like Grissom's Mercury), etc."<br /><br />NASA, please add WINGS to the CEV!<br />

 

[shoogerbrugge]

I'd say that the wings of spaceplane have been a little bit more fragile then most parachutes.<br /><br />Furthermore, even a lifting body would need a parachute for the last part of decent, if you want to keep it light and simple at least<br /><br /><br />Well done China, lets increase that flight ratio a bit now. 1 launch every two years seems a bit too much like, eh, NASA

 

[gaetanomarano]

<br /><br />"...I'd say that the wings of spaceplane have been a little bit more fragile then most parachutes..."<br /><br />it is true if wings are damaged, like Columbia; I think is much safer to HAVE wings<br /><br /><br />"...lifting body would need a parachute..."<br /><br />only if they don't have jet engine (like Shuttle)<br /><br />

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>china is a capitalism country!!!<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Say what!?!?<br /><br />I hope you're going to back that up with some evidence in support of this claim, yree? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[bobw]

<font color="yellow">thanks, bobw, for the Xinhua link: </font><br /><br />Actually, BPCooper posted that link on the 11th in the 50th post, or so, of this thread. That's where I got it from. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[nyarlathotep]

>>"I hope you're going to back that up with some evidence in support of this claim, yree?"<br /><br />They've launched more commercial payloads on Long March in the last decade than the US has launched on STS. Hows that for a start?

 

[robotical]

Well done China! Perhaps in a couple of decades we'll have a multiple country race for Mars! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[dobbins]

"They've launched more commercial payloads on Long March in the last decade than the US has launched on STS"<br /><br />If they launched one they would have beaten the STS. After the Challenger President Reagan took the STS out of the commercial payload business and that policy has never been changed.<br /><br />The STS only launches payloads that need human intrevention. NASA doesn't even use it for it's science probes if they can be launched on an ELV.<br />

 

[j05h]

>Where would the last Soyuz overshoot have landed if it had been targeted for Edwards or, worse White Sands? There is rough country real close! <br /><br />Not sure where it'd land ballisticly, but the best US spot for an accurate capsule might be the Great Lakes or one of the airports on their western shores. Quick access to O'Hare for the tourists. A 200m freshwater reservoir would make a great target LZ.<br /><br />Josh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>

 

[najab]

><i>... the best US spot for an accurate capsule might be the Great Lakes or one of the airports on their western shores...</i><p>If not for the uncontrolled reentry of the deorbit module a couple hundred miles west of that point.</p>

 

[ace5]

It is no secret, photoneye.<br />Since 1994, Chinese personnel are in close contact with the Russians. As far as I know, two taikonauts completed the basic and advanced Cosmonaut Training in Zvezdniy Gorodok in 1994.

 

[ace5]

Maybe someone who was surfing around could help me on these two issues:<br /><br />1- Launcher CZ-2F jettisons some plaques in the very early part of launch (which are seemingly fitted to the upper stage), like the older European Ariane 1-3 models. What are these chinese launcher panels?<br /><br />2- Does anybody have the SZ6 mission patch?

 

[davp99]

Yeah, Hip Hip hooray for the Chinese, Well Done...<br /><br />But ya know, I'd have a lot more respect for them "If" they would have designed An Original Spacecraft instead of just Buying one from the Russians and souping it Up..It's Almost Like Cheating ..<img src="/images/icons/crazy.gif" /> <br /><br />I know everyone will say, the CZ Is Completely Different and All That...and i understand, but Still..... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="4">Dave..</font> </div>

 

[henryhallam]

Well, it is very different to the Soyuz. Certainly different enough to be called a new spacecraft. The Chinese are extremely clever people and have worked hard on this. Let us recognise their achievement for what it is.

 

[JonClarke]

Yep, I'll say it. There is no actual hardware in common with the Shenzhou and Soyuz. Shenxhou differs in design in almost every detail The Chinese do use a lisenced version of the Sokol suit, and appear to have similar drag panels on the payload shroud. This is reason not to respect them? Good grief. In that case I will respect NASA and Alan Shepherd less because Redstone was "just" a souped up V2.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[ace5]

A few points wich are very interesting to note:<br /><br />Who would guess, say, in the Eighties, that in the future, like the early 21st century, the Giant "Communist" China would using commercially-aquired Soviet (Russian) hardware and/or plans (including spacesuits) to go to space?<br /><br />And, that these same spacesuits and *some* spaceflight hardware would be in use of the private initiative for competing in international contests (like X-Prize C-21) and space tourism (private parachute-record braking jumps and space adventures company) for putting paying-passengers into suborbital and pehaps orbital trips?

 

[lstepig]

I am a Chinese, I think I can tell you that, in fact, everyone is a bit affraid of a failure, especially the astronauts' parents . <br />I'm a student. My classmates and I watch the live television programme at school(I must inform you that in my school, every classroom can use laptops, which every teacher possess one, for teaching so my teacher downloaded the TV programme for us. Yeah! ). Many students was a bit afraid of a failure. But we were more confident that our scientists can do it well, because of the carefulness of Chinese.

 

[JonClarke]

Welcome to the forum! It would be great to hear further stories on how people in China perceive this great achievement.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>