STS-116/12A.1 Status

[MeteorWayne]

OK, that helps <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

Listening to the press conference, it sounds like there isnt going to be many good opportunities for launch. Rest of this week looks poor after tomorrow. Sunday, Monday and maybe Tuesday the best days. Then from Wed onwards another front coming in which could cause problems

 

[jschaef5]

Hey sg, or anyone else I guess,<br /><br />I was wondering if you had a table that had the dynamic pressure from ignition to ET separation or once it becomes negligible. I'm guessing this changes slightly for every launch based on the trajectory so I'd assume that its around somewhere and possibly used at the FRR?<br /><br />I supposed I could always just do the calculations (but then i'd need v, h and density...), but if you happen to have the data, i'd love to see it <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />It'd also be cool to see the same for reentry. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[erioladastra]

"Is any time in the 10min window acceptable (will any time result in a fd3 docking?) "<br /><br />Yes.

 

[emerrill]

Ill be curious to see the revised forecast for friday in the morning. Over at TWC, the latest hour by hour forecast has improved since earlier in the day, and shows clearer skies and lighter winds.<br /><br />I've also been looking at TAF's, but they don't cover the launch window yet (they go to Dec 8 0000 UTC, about 2.5hr before thursdays launch).<br /><br />Don't anybody get your hopes up though, Im not a forecaster (but I am a pilot, so I know a bit about interpreting forecasts), so I wouldn't read anything into this until we hear an actual new forecast from NASA. But I'm at least keeping my fingers crossed.<br /><br />Can someone verify this: My understanding from the press conference slides, was that for Shuttle flights the ceiling is interpreted in the same way that traditional flight ceilings are, with the lowest BRK(5/8) or greater deck, and that SKT (4/8) and below are ok below that, as long as clouds are not thicker then 500ft? I read over some of the constraint rules I could find, and that was the gist I came away with. <br /><br />EDIT: To clarify, Im saying that ceiling is traditionally BRK or worse. The 500 ft thing is what I read in the rules I could find. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[subzero788]

Pointless stats question I know, but how many shuttle missions actually launch on the first attempt? Anyone care to give an estimate? I would think it would be on the low side

 

[erioladastra]

Something else to keep in mind is that weather at KSC may be picture perfect - but you have crap at the TALs. The TWC et al don't give that info.<br /><br />Now to remain positive, I have seen rain and suddenly a hole opens up right over KSC. You never know.

 

[erioladastra]

Go for tanking....

 

[erioladastra]

Go for tanking....<br /><br />WX at KSc and TALs still issue

 

[bobblebob]

"T-20 minutes and holding<br />This built-in hold typically lasts 10 minutes. <br />Shuttle Test Director conducts final launch team briefings"<br /><br />Is that the latest the launch could be scrubbed if weather is a problem?<br /><br />Living in the UK going to have to get up early for this one. Dont want to miss it tho with it being a night launch. The first one i will have seen live <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[MeteorWayne]

NASA TV now has a live shot of the pad... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[rvastro]

Nice view, but I don't like the background of clouds. The 90% no go on Friday does not look too great either.

 

[MeteorWayne]

{Weather Hat ON}<br /><br />Just looked at one of the last visible satellite loops (it's getting dark) and I would say the outlook is grim.<br />Need a lot of luck to get this puppy off tonight.<br /><br />There are NO holes 5 hours upstream. So it would require some process that could create a hole, and the environment doesn't look favorable for that.<br /><br />We can cross our fingers, or see ya'll Sunday <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />Weather Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[rocketwatcher2001]

I'm wearing my lucky hat, let's get a break on the Wx and get this bird flying! <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Well I am monitoring the clouds and radar and will post more when the time gets closer.<br />I can give you those links if you wish.<br />The cloud loop takes a bit of getting used to.<br />As far as official stuff, I would assume NASA TV is as good a source as any, except here, since we have several folks who are intimately plugged in.<br /><br />That's where I'll be <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[christine16]

so it's 2 hours, will it ?

 

[clusterone]

this is pretty exciting... if the clouds do open up, how far away is a night launch visible. I read somewhere that the carolinas can see it pretty good, any idea how much further north?

 

[jaredgalen]

The lowest cloud ceiling is what, 8000ft?<br /><br />Seems there is thick cloud at 8500ft and thin cloud below. Wonder if this still applies?

 

[bobw]

They have a nice weather rules graphic here. Click on the graphic for a bigger view.<br /><br />http://www.floridatoday.com/floridatoday/blogs/spaceteam/ <br /><br />Edit: Woah... looks like they took it down. This still works for me.<br /><br />http://www.floridatoday.com/floridatoday/blogs/spaceteam/uploaded_images/weather-753892.jpg <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Boris_Badenov]

Do you know how far west it can be seen? Also by my watch it's 38 minutes to launch. Is that correct? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>

 

[Boris_Badenov]

I've got NASA TV on, that is the right time. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

I have seen the end of a night launch from NW NJ, I believe E Mass can see it under good conditions <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

20 minutes to go, I would suspect the showers within 20 miles rule will prevent launch, along with all the other marginal conditions. One other will probably trip over the edge.<br /><br />Hope I'm wrong.<br /><br />MW <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[subzero788]

NASA TV just said it's currently "No Go"

 

[Boris_Badenov]

I just heard "no go" because of weather too. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>